The reason your bread must cool completely is because it is still baking and developing the texture as it cools. My dough never rises after this step. "Make bread easily without yeast," they said. Also what are the measurements in cups to feed your starter? The liquid is called ‘hooch’. Absolutely! When do I pitch it and start over?! It’s not a major reason for concern, but it doesn’t hurt to switch up your feeding habits to see if that helps. It is now developing hooch but isn’t bubbling. im having a hard time getting a really nice crispy crust. Day 2: After 24 hours, there was definite activity (bubbles) and I gave it a feeding of another 4 ounces of flour and 4 ounces of water. A sourdough starter is made by stirring flour and water and letting it sit for a couple of days. Sourdough starter has become watery?? When sourdough bread dough doesn’t rise, it’s usually because the starter you used wasn’t active enough. Sourdough starters range from extremely runny that you have to pour it, to so thick that you have to use your hands or a dough scraper to break it away. Posted by 2 hours ago. by Jetzs on Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:06 pm . It’s a somewhat established starter that I have used successfully in the past week…. I don’t want to lose the oven spring. *Note* If your sourdough starter is a bit sluggish, try feeding it twice a day until it becomes more active. Preheating your pan can help with oven spring, but it’s not always needed. Thank you for any help, I’m a newbie to baking bread! I’d try both and see which your starter prefers. It has that ‘smell’ and is very bubbly. Stirred it and put in fridge -- boy howdy is it THIN and runny -- not even remotely close to pancake batter thickness -- Will it thicken up over the next 15 days? I’ve made your recipe a few times and is very good although I have a hard time handling the dough, it’s not like yours on the video. Why is this. Hi. My sample sinks in water when I try the float test. It is doubling in size within 3-4 hours of a feeding, If you place a teaspoon of recently fed starter in a cup of cool water, it floats to the top. Or gasp, start over? How much Einkorn AP flour should I use in feeding and baking with your recipes? This morning (Monday), they were both full of active, happy starter. I wish I had a really simple and easy formula for you here, but this is quite cumbersome and complex. You can use whole wheat, all-purpose flour, rye, einkorn, and many others for a sourdough starter. I though maybe I could save it, then opened the jar and it was hard like a rock. I measured out the cup of starter and mixed up the rest of it, and by the time I added the starter (last ingredient), the cup was overflowing down the sides! Weighing the ingredients is better. But it tasted wonderful! If your house is chilly, you might need to get a bit creative to figure out how to keep it happy. Re: Watery Sourdough Starter. In order to help you out, I’ve put together this GIANT list of the most common questions I’ve been getting about all-things-sourdough and I answered them all as thoroughly as possible. When making your sourdough bread recipe, it says to use lukewarm water. Also, mine began rising when I made my starter a little thicker. I’ve been babying my first starter for about 2 weeks now (I live in a concrete floor apartment in Alaska – so I have a super problem with finding a “warmer” spot) so I had planned on it being extra slow to get it going. A Sourdough Starter … What a crazy story! The sourdough starter recipe below is super easy but has other challenges. It lost its consistently? Thanks so much! It is pourable, cannot be shaped or kneaded, and is not anything I would consider a ‘dough’. Here’s my recipe for a simple sourdough bread. It takes several days to develop a starter, but once done, and properly maintained, you can use your sourdough base for several years. 80°F to 85°F (26°C to 29°C) is ideal. I left my dogh to rise on counter overnight and it did not rise. It doesn’t have to be down to decimal point accuracy, but it needs to be close for best results. I noticed you did not preheat your pot before putting in the bread. I have tried different recipes, measuring by weight. The bread should read between 170-200 degrees F when the bread is cooked enough. What happened? It had doubled and I could see bubbles, but it did not float in water… Was it just because it had been several hours since I fed it? In the morning when i put my dough out of the fridge and put it into baking paper, it couldn’t hold the shape just like other baker’s in youtube. The towel always get wet. The float test isn’t the end-all-be-all. And it’s a little bit less pressure than baking with active starter. Basically, how ever much starter you have (let’s say 1/4 C.), you would feed your starter roughly 1/4 C. flour, and 1/4 C. water. Doughs that contain a lot of moisture tend to spread more than dryer doughs, so that could be the culprit. Shoot for 76°F – 80°F (24-26°C) ambient temperature for increased fermentation activity. Grey or brownish hues in a starter are generally normal and not a cause for concern. I’ve read Einkorn absorbs more water than regular AP flour. Hii.. i have made many of sourdough breads yet i still couldnt get the nice oven spring and big ear. The loaf also didn’t get as dark as it should. From the beginning Process of the starter I have always had bubbles. After your starter peeks in 6-12 hours after feeding and start collapsing, the starter will become more runny as well. You will also want to help the loaves rise faster by putting them in an extra warm location or by using a bit of extra starter in the bread recipe to get it to rise faster. Thanks for all the sour dough tips, it’s my first time making and using starter! However, as long as you could adjust that, you should be fine. Copyright © 2020 The Prairie Homestead  •  All rights reserved  •  Site Design by Emily White Designs, Easy Dough Recipe (for Bread, Rolls, Pizza, & More! If you're a home baker, try doing 1/2c flour to 1/4c water - this makes what's considered a high hydration starter that's about equal parts flour:water by weight, but you don't have to bust out your scale. :-) Today, day 5, I used 1.5c to make "San Francisco Sourdough … On my first several tries making sourdough starter, I also have problem with mold. It is alive and well! Refrigerating and Reviving. I’m rather excited to see what it will do after it’s rehydrated. I use the canning lid (since my starter is in a mason jar) and I just lightly set it on top of the jar and I don’t screw the lid on too tightly. Meanwhile I am feeding my started on the counter, daily, to try to strengthen it. ), I’ve put together the most common sourdough questions and my answers related to baking bread. In making your Simple Sourdough bread I had great success with first loaf, but every try since the dough becomes glued to the banneton basket after second rise. Baking with discard is fun, isn’t it? Like a pink or orange starter, an alcohol/nail polish remover aroma can indicate your starter is starving to death. A. Sourdough starter can survive more neglect than most cultures. Make sure your sourdough starter is warm. The tricky part is that you’ve just added bulk to your recipe, so you’re going to need to adjust the remaining ingredients in that recipe as well. If you're storing starter in a screw-top jar, screw the top on loosely rather than airtight. This is when the crumb is setting. Figure out the rhythm that works best for you and what makes your own starter the happiest. Good morning! If I pour off half of my starter before I feed it I am assuming add the 1/2 cup flour and 1/4 cup water to the “discard” and give to them? If your water is chlorinated, you can still use it for your sourdough starter, but you must evaporate the chlorine first. Don’t worry– it happens to the best of us. My sourdough starter is on day 4. Kuddos for your amazing videos! I literally have to scrape it off the sides Of the linen liner and of course the whole mess collapses. The 2nd day it bubbles and doubled in size. I cut it into fourths, pried the top layer off and threw it in my chicken bucket, then got the rest of it out of there. Thank you so much for all the amazing information, I am loving your blog! There are two ways you can keep a sourdough starter: 1) you can keep it on the counter and feed it every single day, 2) OR you can store it in your refrigerator for the majority of the time and just pull it out when you want to bake. I have made many loaves now 30 plus and they don’t seem to get a good crust on them when baking and are quite doughy when taken out of the oven. So just pick one and odds are you’ll be just fine. Stretch and fold 1 and rest for 30 min 5. lamination and rest for 30 min 6. I hope you’re doing better now. You can make sourdough bread with many different types of flour, however, if you’re brand new to sourdough, I recommend using all-purpose flour. Wait at least 7-10 days before you decide if your sourdough starter isn’t active. I have now tried three different recipes for sourdough bread, each has turned out the same: after mixing, (specified variously as 10-18 hours), though I have checked it at 2,4,6,8,etc hours (up to 24 hrs) while it doubles in size (as far as I can tell), it simply forms a larger ‘starter’: i.e., it has the same consistency and appearance as my starter. (I personally use a half gallon sized mason jar.). Try feeding it more frequently and keep it on the counter with more feedings until it smells and looks better. If you feed it every day, it can feasibly go on forever. Most of the recipes at the Friendship Bread Kitchen use 1 cup of Amish Friendship Bread starter, a flour-based sweet sourdough starter. I continue to shape the ball on the counter, leave it rest for ten minutes, reshape ball to tighten up and put it in the tea towel lightly floured with the seams up. I checked my oven temp with an oven thermometer and it was spot on. I’ve been searching around for help and read skipping because the starter maybe isn’t hungry. This ratio tends to behave very well for me compared to other techniques I have tried in the past. However, this can greatly vary, and there are recipes that use anywhere from 1/4 cup to 1 cup of active starter. I think it’s just not mature enough yet. You don’t need help with sourdough starter – that actually sounds like a perfectly healthy sourdough starter! If you look through this list of Q&As don’t find your question, just add them to the comments of this article, and I’ll answer them. I had the same problem, then I switched to using parchment paper for the liner. Whether that’s my sourdough starting method or someone else’s, you will drive yourself crazy trying to take something from all of them. Some folks have good luck using cooler with a warm heating pad or a seedling heating mat to keep their starter warm and happy. I know many people have 100-year old sourdough starters(!!). If this is your first time making sourdough, I suggest using whole wheat flour and all-purpose flour in the way I wrote in my recipe. This will extend the souring/rise time and produce a more sour loaf. If your starter is too watery, add more flour when you do your next feeding. And if you need gluten-free flour, check out all the varieties you can get at Vitacost! Use whole-grain flours to feed your starter, since the sour-producing bacterias seems to love them. I fed my starter today. I personally like to keep my starter pretty thick, about the constancy of a thick pancake or muffin batter. Sometimes. I am so frustrated! I had gamma knife radiation and the deafness and facial numbness went away, but they won’t even check on it for a year. this is a great way to do it. It’s dry and I figure not much different than dried starters I could buy, so I put part of it in a plastic bag in the fridge and poured some water in it. Bake on! I leave it on the counter. will test them out this wknd. After feeding, it was a pretty thick consistency. It’s not nearly rising like crazy like others I’ve seen. My sourdough is always 80% hydration. I have tried this and the dough became slimy rather than sticky. Do I need to do that second rise? Q: Day 1: I mixed 4 ounces of bread flour with 4 ounces of water in a small mixing bowl, covered it loosely with plastic, and set it in a place where the temperature was about 75°F. Add a little more flour or a little less water if you want it stiffer. I personally feed my starter thicker, and I find it has a better time doubling in size that way. Equal parts by volume or by weight? Try feeding it more often, or use a different water, or try a different flour. I try to clean out my sourdough starter jar once a month, but sometimes I forget. Baked my first loaf per your instructions and it was perfect and beautiful and delicious. Any suggestions how to get the tang back? This is also very common, especially in new sourdough starters. If I’m using a brand new starter, by day two, the discard isn’t really sour yet. In the mornings, there's a layer of water at the top. Sourdough definitely prefers a warm environment. Homesteading | Self Sufficient Living | Living off the Land, 71 Comments | Jill Winger |    Last Updated: May 8, 2020. Who would have thought, that in 2020, the whole world would suddenly have an interest in ancient methods for capturing wild yeast?! Should I bake anyway and why did it not rise? This gluten-free recipe from King Arthur flour looks promising. You could try on top of your refrigerator, which is often a warm place in the kitchen. Hello, my last bread had very large air pockets but only on the top, the bread didn’t appear to raise in a consistent way. Overnight rise doubles and does what is described it should do. All that is left to do is build it up to the quantity you desire with once or twice daily feedings. all the varieties you can get at Vitacost, podcast about my favorite ways to use sourdough discard, Here’s my recipe for a simple sourdough bread. The inclusion of bran in a starter is likely an inhibitor in the gluten development of a baked loaf. I also have another one with a mix of Stone Ground Wheat Flour with similar results). By step three of the sourdough process, you want to start discarding half of the starter. Because potato flake starters are thinner and more watery than an AFB starter, you can’t use it as a 1-for-1 swap in recipes calling for 1 cup of AFB starter… Try to change jars about once a month, but you can do it more often if you like. I’m confused I had a perfectly good starter and my kitchen was very cold so overnight I put it in the oven with the light on. I’ve been feeding ever since and it now triples in size. Should I simply add more water until the dough is more sticky? To make this story even crazier, my husband was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s 6 months before my brain tumor was diagnosed. Sunday night I put the discard in a Tupperware container, fed the starter in the jar and in the Tupperware and just set lids on the top. Dead Starter vs. Live Starter: I fed my starter, and then it rose to double and then completely deflated – is it dead? Baked very dense and chewy, discarded after slicing and tasting (tasted ok). Add a little more flour or a little less water if you want it stiffer. The only way to know for sure if it is still viable is to feed it. ), Save time & money as you build your homestead with my, Click here to learn how to make a sourdough starter). Thank you for posting so much information about sourdough starters! The last 2 days it has bubbled but isn’t rising. The trouble has begun when removing the dough from the bowl. It was a lot thinner this morning when I went to discard half of the starter. If you are indeed using active starter, it’s possible that your dough may need a little more liquid next time OR a bit more time to rise. To help prevent that crust from forming on your dough, try coating your dough ball in oil before setting it aside to rise. I get this question a lot, however, since I don’t cook with a lot of gluten-free flour, I don’t have personal experience with this. If you want a more tangy homemade sourdough, you just have to play around with your starter (read next question below for those tips). How to make your own Sourdough Starter, using simple ingredients with no special equipment, in 6 days, that can be used in crusty sourdough bread, pizza dough, waffles, banana bread, pancakes, crackers, sourdough buns, sourdough tortillas and biscuits. If you’re struggling with your dough sticking to everything, try dipping your hands in a bowl of cool water before you work it. Simply put the water in a container on your counter overnight uncovered. Hooch is the waste product of the sourdough starter. But it hasn’t helped too much. It’s not active enough to use in bread, and it won’t be tangy yet, but it’s great for discard recipes like crackers and pancakes (basically anything that has an additional leavening agent (baking powder or baking soda) is a great option). Some homemade sourdoughs can get pretty darn sour, but they don’t have to be– that’s the beauty of it. My starter is going backwards. If your starter is on the counter, you should ideally feed it once a day. First step? It was doing great…doubling and bubbling but it wont ever float. Runny isn't a problem so long as your recipe calls for liquid/high hydration sourdough starter/culture or you're comfortable converting it to a stiffer culture. The build up on the sides happens pretty quick and since flour and water acts like school paste (remember that stuff? Not an expert myself, but plenty of rice flour has worked for me. I wouldn’t worry too much about the float test–it can be helpful, but it’s not the end-all-be-all. I started one and have made 2 loaves so far. Discard half of the starter, and feed it the 1:1:1 ratio explained above — 1 part starter to 1 part water to 1 part flour (in weight). I ended up using two glass containers. Several factors play into the fermentation vigor of your starter, and the most important one is temperature. Perhaps your starter isn’t getting enough time in between feedings to rise? If it sinks, it’s still not active enough and needs more time. This morning it thinned our And became liquidity. "It only requires two ingredients: flour and water," they said. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I was having the same issue and someone suggested White Rice Flour sprinkled in the banneton (or on the cloth if you use it). Is it because of my fridge is not cold enough? Here are a few ways to adjust your technique for a more sour sourdough loaf: You will want to do the opposite of what’s mentioned in the question above. But keep going! 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